Marta Benavides is a biologist and an ordained minister who worked with Oscar Romero in community organizing in El Salvador. Her parents were an indigenous healer and a bureaucrat. She grew up Catholic, was recruited to the Baptists, and came to her own theology, which recognizes love as a force and rejects hierarchy. She talks about her life and the dangerous struggle against oligarchy. Recorded in October 1996. Interview by Frieda Werden. Technical assistance, Lisa Hayes, Suzette Cullen.